Spiral 3 Episodes 11&12 Final Episodes Random Conversations vs Posrters and Musings on Spiral 10th May 2011 2:18pm

  • @DevonGirl4 & @ All
    hey, let’s not devolve in to bickering in the last fading of the light..
    what i like about this forum is that it has been blessedly free of such things, blimey some i could mention regularly disintegrate into an outright Holy War!

    I have a good memory for minutiae and i distinctly remember imploring Devongirl “Oh, do tell, who is Vlad?”
    to which Devongirl4 replied:
    “no, i would hate to spoil it” or something like that..
    i would stick to my story even if imprisoned in the Juvenile Squad room with that appallingly unappealing man questioning me…

    nb. Inshallah is Arabic for God Willing, i may have made it seem like it meant “tomorow” i also like “salaam alaykum” (hello, my Brother) Arabic is very poetic. I have tried out these phrases just for the sake of saying them!

    nb. i hope it’s ok to mention uhum another Newspaper but there was a write up yesterday in the Independent by the Fashion Writer
    Susannah Frankel all about our fair (& more than mad) Laure!

    Somewhat sexist in precept really since when does anybody ever write about what Male characters are wearing? Even the sartorially supreme Don Draper? However it is good and quite funny entitled:
    ‘Dirty Harry Never Looked This Damn Good’.

    It encompasses Sarah Lund, the whole thorny ‘ Laure’s vestgate’ issue & a deconstruction of Laure’s wardrobe piece by piece, who would have noticed she wore black box-cut Levi jeans? I sure didn’t. It ends with a funny retelling of the infamous Madame Courcelles scene. Seen of course from the point of view of a Fashionista..

    Interesting quote:
    “More generally Spiral only serves to emphasise the difference between the French attitude to dress and the rest of the planet’s”
    Hmm..really? i think it’s always been known as ‘chic’ and /or “i don’t give a (rhymes nearly with) “chic”!…

    Nb. I realise that what i am about to say may be tantamount to treason for seasoned Spiral Watchers however i plead no prior knowledge of the characters. I had a few uncomfortable moments when Gilou & Tin Tin seemed to be giving each other meaningful looks on the way to the stakeout with Laure in the car. Literally behind her back as i think Laure was driving..

    I wondered if Gilou & Tin Tin could be ‘crooked cops’ too? It was just after finding out about Le Shark & possibly the same time as they had identified the Shark through his registration number. Also, who exactly gave the order “Put your orange/red? armbands on!”
    at the frenetic warehouse scene?

    It was unclear i felt who issued that order, was it Bremont, or was it Le Shark to his crooked crew Gilou & TinTin? Le Shark after shouting loudly:
    “Les Flics are coming, move your arrrses!” (pardon me)
    hilariously, as just once, Gilou swore merde in English, Le Shark shouts this out in English! why? It was all very mixed up wasn’t it. For me this deliberately played with our suspicions. Well mine anyway.

    Taken to it’s logical conclusion this could be argued as the reason nasty Niko slipped away from a warehouse chock full of Policemen/woman? Could Gilou’s manfully melodramatic ‘collapse’ have been fake? Therefore explaining his resurrection via slapping?!
    eg. Was it really an ‘accident’ that Niko ‘got away’?

    Sorry,(for my reasonable thoughts) i really like Gilou as a character and all, feel he has a wonderful magnetic screen presence akin to dear hunky Gerard Depardieu who sadly i must relate is now looking rather large in the vein of Marlon Brando in his later years.

    I have had great fun exploring the ‘feminine’ and unashamedly caring side of Gilou’s character simply because it contrasts so beautifully with his whole big man me hulk persona..However he has i hear been ‘in deep with the Columbian marching powder and the Ladies of the night in the past?

    ca n’est fais rien, you are welcome, same to you, merci beaucoup..
    hey i completely forgot about Noggins the Nog-tonight unfortunately it clashes with the doomfest laden Eastenders with which due to my mortal fascination with such Drama i must watch..

    however will check it out on Wednesday.. Here be something funny:i too have a small marble horse’s head about six inches high, a beautiful pale sea green but with no mysterious inscription..

Random Goodbye Chat vs. Posters Spiral 3 10th May 2011

  • Yassou @Nounours, boo hoo..
    peut etre vous etait a’ la tout seule a compris mon humeure..?
    vous etes drole’, mais oui, avec “proto fascist” and identity politics, c’est tout depressing pour moi..
    c’est une bonne idee’, La Moomintroll mais ils sont tout gros!.
    ca va bien, au revoir, a tout a l’heure of The Killing ( i make this up)

    ps. i looked up the meaning of your horse’s inscription without knowing ancient Greek the best i could come up with was Japanese in origin meaning ‘Blessed with Good Sight’!
    The whole Pierrre and Josephine kiss thing was, groan, a bit too
    ‘Moonlighting’ for me.. I’m usually the romantic one yet i preferred Josephine as a sociopath!

    BTW:BBC4’sJar City is really good, (the Detective to out-Detective all Detectives!)& BBC4’s Nightshift is also good, funny & set in Iceland!

    In case this is shut down thank you so much to James Donaghy for your wonderful blogs&for hosting this blog and putting up with my ramblings and off piste imaginings.

    Really enjoyed ‘interacting’ with Y’all, writing about Spiral and sharing the experience, had a complete blast. Oh Ye
    Gods i did a Hallmark moment. Falls backwards into a giant pot of Golden Syrup, hmmm, this tastes good, not a bad way to go..

    @Joodone:thanks for making me laugh and opening my eyes to a whole new way of writing, with scene setting and dialogue, never tried it before and absolutely loved it. Also helped me to precis..

    Thank you for all the info about those programmes. Phew, that the stories of Pugwash were after all innocent, they were always funny…

    i may be back..

Spiral 3 Episodes 11&12 9th May 9:12pm-WARNING:SERIOUS SPOILERS!

  • Oui, c’est finis, Oh woe is me..Yes i will miss my favourite Les Flics, however thanks to whomsoever mentioned Jar City which provided a cushioning come down to the overall anti-climax..

    It ends with a Bang not a Whimper:
    Agree that it was a bit of let down Laure shooting Ronaldo. All a bit daft really. Not that i want to get into a discussion of morals in a Drama however Laure is meant to be better than the murderers i would suggest? Sure, she hadn’t yet frightened the life out of and/or slowly tortured somebody but hey, what was the difference otherwise?

    If she really thought it through would not a long slow lingering death by attrition (boredom?) and cumulative beatings up in prison would have been a worse punishment? As people have pointed out it was all very Osama Bin Laden..

    Sharp Shootin’ Laure:
    However i do appreciate the strangeness of this scene. Along with the laughable physics involved. As rightly pointed out, Laure would have to have been a sharp shooter indeed to make that one bullet whizz through a mesh fence without bouncing back an a) killing her or ricocheting randomly about the room & possibly killing others in it!

    Laure’s Cowboy name could be Lefty:
    I say strangeness of the scene since this vision of lawless cowboy style redemption and revenge was accompanied all the while with the sight of Laure’s one left eye. An eye burning brightly with a maniacal light along with a matching slow trailing tear, sliding slug like down her left cheek. Sorry folks, it seems our beloved Laure is quite mad, bonkers in fact…

    Roanldo excels in Creepsville:
    When Laure shot Ronaldo in cold blood, he was just walking towards her, looking and grinning all creepy like. Yet he couldn’t get to her as she knew. I agree he was leaning downwards (low and to his right) and did appear to have something in his hand.

    Ronaldo does S.A.S:
    I did not spot him getting a gun in the frenetic few minutes where he dispatches several men single handed. I thought he only unearthed a mobile and the van keys all with an enviable S.A.S. style coolness. I felt he had his favourite razor in his hand?
    Yes, Les Flics were shouting “he has a gun”, however how did they know that for sure?

    Ronaldo’s missing scalpel:
    So Ronaldo was doing all that with an old fashioned one sided razor.
    Did wonder how he kept it in his pocket. His scalpel must have been tucked away somewhere safer. What he was using was not the shape imprint of his signature ‘mark’.

    The Lighter and the burn mark:
    However having a handy lighter and suddenly conjuring a cigarette out of nowhere in his daring and cunning escape plan(surely taught to Special Forces) leads me to think this is how he burned the scalpel mark onto his victims.

    The Taping up & Torture scenes:
    I, like others here, couldn’t watch Ronaldo’s torturing scenes. Likewise even the preceding not so jolly old ‘great big parcel’ here, good thing i remembered to bring my electrical masking tape(?!) scene.

    That electrical tape just gets everywhere:
    Women with their mouths getting taped up, think that’s just about been ‘done’ to death now, in Murder Dramas? I question the significance of such scenes generally and do wonder if they verge on prurience of a sexual kind?

    The Mirror imaging of scenes & Themes:
    On a more cheerful note, tho not much. the cigarette and lighter them was mirrored in the scene with Niko and Mila. Niko improbably kindly asks Mila:

    “I never asked you how you say hello in Romanian?”
    having offered her a cigarette.
    Mila replies”Buna Zia”!

    A touching scene if it were not for the fact that we know Niko is a raging murderous psychopath and we now are shown that Mila is indeed ‘playing him’ for her own survival. (as i felt she was) Obsequious, smiling and submissive, Mila keeps saying “thank you”.

    The politeness of some horror:
    In it’s own way, this silent and apparently amiable scene was just as charged with menace and shadowing Gothic horror than those outright scenes of violence. Amazingly, Niko even apologises to Mila for having beaten her up, however his apology rightly fills her with dread. Mila knows that he is ‘playing her’ right back..

Spiral 3 Episode 11&12 8th May 2011 2:53pm

  • 8 May 2011 2:53PM

    loving all the comments: Oo La La!
    hope this Blog stays open for a while? have to go out and have some exercise, the nearest i can get to swimming in le deep bleu sea, un peu like Spiral itself.. Tho note, it turned from it’s favourite fabulous bleu, into yellow tinged sepia world at the end…a feast for the eyes truly, vraimant, mes amis…

    A bien tot, till later, when i will wrestle with my alarming lack of precis’ ability to try & summarise Le Spiral experience & the fearsome finale…